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  1. I dont get the red box in Ableton
 

  1. I dont get the red box in Ableton

    Something is either wrong with your python installation or the ip you have specified for your computer and the ipad/ipod. Check python 2.5.1 is installed and that the ip addresses you have entered in the configuration file are correct.

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  • gudmundur

    how do i use python with touchosc and ableton

  • gudmundur

    how do i use python with touchosc and ableton

  • http://zerozeroisland.co.uk john

    The Screen will only flip in one direction. When i have the iPad in the Apple case, set up in the 'wedge' shaped stand like so:

    http://tinyurl.com/2ex6bn8

    LiveControl will only flip so that it is viewed upside-down. Setting the iPad up in this case makes it very comfortable to use in my studio, but impossible to use correctly with LiveControl…

  • Jason

    I have the same problem.

  • robopants

    I get my iPad to receive all data from Live but it wont send. I'm using the same settings and setup as i did yesterday when all worked. What should i check first?

  • greyfox18

    I can't get the program to rotate at all. anybody have an answer to this?

  • Tony

    When you're in the main screen of TouchOSC (where it shows Network, Layout, Options), turn your iPad upside down (so the Home button is on top), and let the screen rotate around. Then lock the iPad so it won't rotate again. Touch “Done” and your layout should work for you with the wedge case.

  • ST8

    ips may have changed, so those should be the first thing you check :)

  • xtraman

    hey just wondering if there was a way to set up more than one ipad/ipod in one ableton live set with the feed back??

  • ST8

    Thats a damn good idea, i'll look into adding support for multiple ipod/ipads soon :)

  • xtraman

    cools!!
    that could be the way to add an crossfader or something
    have one the the regular live control app and the other ipod have the crossfader =p

  • Seth

    Looks gorgeous, but given the ipad version has 7 rows of scenes, yet the red box / only synchs clip names (and highlights) the first 4. ???

    Yet if I tap one of the remaining rows of clips, it properly triggers that row in Live.

  • Seth

    Nevermind! I looked closer at the LiveControl app, and saw the checkbox for “yes, I'm using an ipad”. That fixed it!

  • Rob

    When I click install to copy the MIDI Remote Scripts from the LiveControl program, it says in the status bar that it is copying the files but it doesn't seem to does so, and so it never shows up in the list of Control Surfaces in Ableton's Preferences. Got Python installed and the config file is right. Any help?

  • http://www.myspace.com/treeboiandkone Treeboi

    Just ONE little suggestion…

    When jumping through clips on the iPhone it'd be cool if I could go down one at a time and not have to hold shift. Maybe as part of the config tool you could give users the option to tweak little things at build time, stuff like shift/shift toggle functionality

  • Ben Sampson

    I have tried to install on Windos 7 64 bit home edition and I get the following

    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File “LiveControl.py”, line 7, in <module>
    File “pybonjour.pyo”, line 88, in <module>
    File “ctypes__init__.pyo”, line 415, in __getattr__
    File “ctypes__init__.pyo”, line 340, in __init__
    WindowsError: [Error 126] The specified module could not be found
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File “LiveControl.py”, line 7, in <module>
    File “pybonjour.pyo”, line 88, in <module>
    File “ctypes__init__.pyo”, line 415, in __getattr__
    File “ctypes__init__.pyo”, line 340, in __init__
    WindowsError: [Error 126] The specified module could not be found
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    File “LiveControl.py”, line 7, in <module>
    File “pybonjour.pyo”, line 88, in <module>
    File “ctypes__init__.pyo”, line 415, in __getattr__
    File “ctypes__init__.pyo”, line 340, in __init__
    WindowsError: [Error 126] The specified module could not be found

    Please help

  • tuFFz

    Hey, i gotta Question!
    If the Clipnames are very long, LiveControl shortens them. I changed the Labelsizes in TouchOSC but there are only 8 Letters shown. How can i see more?

  • DNA_Cali

    Please add some documentation on the Mix 2 iPad layout. I am problems getting that to work! Also, whenever I switch layouts, the TouchOSC app crashes on my iPad.

  • DNA_Cali

    Meant to say, “I am _having_ problems…” :) :)

  • ST8

    mix 2 layout? you should only be using the LiveControl layout with LiveControl :)

  • ST8

    I can add an option in the config file for string lengths. If you can fancy manually editing the python open up Program.py and change line 158, length += 5 to whatever you want :)

  • LB

    Hi all, My Midi tabs drum pads and keyboard is not working, can u post more info about the set up….please! Thx guys great job!

  • DSR5775

    Hi,
    very very nice and useful on iPad with Ableton :) but i have some troubles.. 1. In Device adding more than 8 parameters skips the first in Bank 2. All following parameters have wrong names.
    2. Please add 8 Buttons to the Rotaries in Devices. Would be perfect with Kore Player to emulate a complete Kore Controller ;) sorry, but i have no idea about editing that perfect LiveControl Template. Please add the 8 Buttons.
    3. Master Fader works in Launcher but not in Mixer. strange..
    If that would be fixed i´d really consider to sell my Remote SL Zero.. anyone interested? ;)
    cheers, great job!

  • george

    looks all very nice.
    does it handle more than 8 tracks?

  • george

    is it customizable? can i edit the pages with touch osc editor? or else?

  • ST8

    yes it *shows* 8 tracks at a time, but you can scroll through as many as you like

  • ST8

    sure you can

  • ST8

    i'll check this out, probably a bug at this end :)

  • Braindub

    Hi, thanks ST8 for all you work.
    I thought building something similar with Max4Live but your script rocks! I am impress by the feedback response and navigation. I dreamt I could have done somthing similar with Max4Live, but that far? It would have take me ages and would have been more unstable or CPU consuming. I will definitively have a closer look to remote scripts and Phyton.
    I am playing with ipad on mac and I really thankful for your valuable work here!
    Now I am wondering if I could use both an ipdad and an iphone (with their own touchOSC's templates provided in your packages). How should I build my LiveControl configuration?
    Does the option 'Using an iPad' will prevent any 'iphone' communication? Should I add a route with my iphone ports? Maybe this is obvious…

  • DSR5775

    Hi :) thanx for replayand checking. I use Live 8.1.3 OSX and now i´vetried it out with various Plugins, always the Parameter 9 Name in Devices glitches so all following are wrong. Somekind of counter failure..? Guess not to hard to get rid of though it works really fine.
    Do you think its possible to add 8 Buttons to the Devices? Often there are Buttons to assign and its really not optimal to use them by rotaries.
    As mentioned, Master Fader works in Launcher but not in Mixer. I wonder why nobody else had that, or am i writing in the wrong place here?
    cheers!

  • george

    can i use other osc apps like synthpond or rain along with touchosc and livecontrol via osculator/m4l/pd? e.g. multitasking osc apps and clients?

  • 5meohd

    In “installation” you have step 1 as “configure touch osc in the editor? When I open the editor on my mac osx leapord nothing pops up…. the tool bar at the top of my screen switches as if there were a program open.. but there is no window nor any file..edit..view functions etc..

    Is the d/l link over at hexler broken? I d/led twice on two different macs… or am I just COMPLETELY RETARDED!!

    help?

  • 5meohd

    I must be the thickest.. so I was reading about about “where/what is config file” and it says its the livecontrol_to.txt file included in the zip…? all it i get is a file called LiveControl (your app?) LiveControl.touchosc and LiveControl_iPad.touchosc & readme.txt

    but thats it?

  • Stefan

    Ableton says: “Could not send outgoing data, check your network settings”

    Following the readme.txt, I can now move around the red box + interface with Live using TouchOsc. Awesome! However, each time I send data, Live argues that I should check my network settings. Where do I begin?

    TouchOsc settings (iPhone):
    Port out: 5000
    Port in: 5001
    Local IP: 10.0.1.199

    Live settings (8.1.3):
    http://yfrog.com/58livecontroltop

  • ST8

    those all look fine, i need to see a picture of the LiveControl configuration tab too.

  • ST8

    you cant use more than one device at once at the moment, hopefully in a future update though.

  • Mark

    This program alone makes the iPad worth owning. Fantastic.

    Unfortunately something's seriously wrong for me. Having LiveControl as a control surface in Ableton does not work well. If I select LiveControl TO it takes a long time for it to activate, and once it's on it slows the whole program down, making Live take several minutes to boot up and close. Sound playback is also slowed right down and Live in general is really unresponsive. My friend has it running perfectly though. Would you have an idea of what might be the issue for me?

    Seriously incredible work though!

  • Mark

    Oh, and FYI, I'm using OSX 10.6.4 to run it. I've tried installing it again with no success.

  • ST8

    What version of Live? Are you using IP addresses or bonjour host names? I know resolving those can sometimes stall the program. Try selecting “use ip addresses” and hitting save configuration

  • Stefan

    So I'm trying this from my blackbook right now:

    Live 8.1.3, OS X 10.5.8

    - I can't find an install of LiveControl. Should I just store the program in Applications so I can launch it or do changes? Sorry if this comes acroos as very basic.
    - When launched, I'm missing port number information in LiveControl prefs. Is this normal?
    - Should the chosen bus in Live also be a particular bus in the OSX Midi settings, as well as the same bus (I'm trying to use 4) in LiveControl?
    - How is it the busses in my Live settings aren't as descriptive as those seen in the LiveControl setup example?
    - Initially LiveControl actually worked on this computer, but enabling the router for pad control had it stop working.

    I've gone over it a couple of times but I'm apparently blind to what is not working. Any help would be much appreciated.

    Here are four screen shots:
    http://img69.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=configure.png

  • ST8

    hey stefan

    (1) yes just copy the app into Applications. Eventually i'll package this all up nicely into a dmg, not quite got that far yet :)

    (2) port numbers are now hidden as you shouldn't need to change them unless you are doing something special. if you need to change them tick “advanced settings” and they'll appear.

    (3) your midi settings look fine, the same bus as selected in Live is set for output in LiveControl

    (4) You can rename your buses in the IAC driver section by double clicking them

    (5) *Id suggest you try using IP addresses instead of bonjour host names, might be struggling to resolve the host names*

  • http://twitter.com/duncanm Duncan Metcalfe

    Hi there,

    Fantastic work! Renders my launchpad pretty much pointless now :D . Just a question about the device page, though – I've been able to get midi learn to work on one of the rotaries, but no more. The first one works, the others, nothing. All other pages seem to work as intended, so I have absolutely no idea why on earth the rotaries are doing bugger all. Any ideas?

    Thanks in advance!

  • ST8

    They are not midi learnable, thye show 8 parameters at a time from the current device (like the apc), you need to make sure your device has some parameters. Try dropping say an ableton reverb onto the track, the parameters for that should appear.

    If its a 3rd party vst you need to toggle the little arrow in ableton to show the parameters, then hit configure and select some parameters inyour vst. They should be mapped through to ableton, and TouchOSC.

  • http://twitter.com/duncanm Duncan Metcalfe

    Ah, of course! didn't occur to me to try that instead of through the instrument GUI. Thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/fatphil Phil G

    About the keys and pads. I noticed if I hit two keys at the same time there's an audible delay before the 2nd note of the chord is played. Is this normal? Thanks, Phil

  • Mark

    This seems to have done the trick! Thanks a lot ST8!

  • Androm

    Can i use this with LIVE version 5??

  • Jobot

    Hey ST8:

    First off, amazing work… I'm so glad I don't have to use OSCULATOR!

    But I have run into some issues…

    I can get it to connect and interact with Live's Arrangement view and such, but when I configure it to attempt to do drumpad/Keyboard input, it doesn't match up with anything in Live, it still does the control sends, and I can still control the clips and such, but I can't play midi into any of the instruments, in live, in the top left corner where it shows sends and receives, it shows it's receiving a signal, but doesn't do anything in the channel, I've ensured that the setup is according to your guide, and like I said, still inputs normal clip sends and such, but no midi.

    also, another thing is that it doesn't show the correct labels for certain items, a main thing being the top tabs and like octave change… I've been navigating based off of the screens on your guide. Attempting to upload picture:

    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4781386779_…

    Any ideas? I'm not terribly attached to the drum machine/keys, would be nice… but the code-talk on the tabs and such make it kinda difficult, heh.

    Otherwise, it works mostly… so I really enjoy it, and most importantly, NO OSCulator!

  • Thatkidduffy

    Hi,

    I'm really looking forward to using this and have it installed on my iphone 4 and my laptop (running vista and live 8.1.3). Only issue is that even though the live control window says it is copying the files to my ableton folder, it doesn't actually seem to copy anything. As a result, I cannot select livecontrol_to from the midi control surface menu.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks

  • george

    hi st8!
    livecontrol works great for me, thanx a lot. i did some customization and have it running almost perfectly to my needs.
    1 think missing: show/hide plugin window(alt+cmd+p) shortcut. how can i add a button for that?
    best,
    george

  • Kyungjinchoi

    I get a “could not bind to incoming ip”-error… I use ipad with mac book and live all in new versions and snow leopard… Please help.

  • Kyungjinchoi

    Have it… Thanks, super nice control here!

  • Skrooloose

    Hi there, great interface and it's working madly on my iPhone and iPad. Just a quick question. Is it possible to change say the Volume control on the master fader on the Scene Page to control the Crossfader? Right now there seems to be a control for almost everything except crossfader.

  • Oleh

    I get exactly the same. On windows 7 ultimate.

  • Djshine

    Hey there, is anyone having issues loading the livecontrol template into touch osc. I keep getting connection timeout errors and its pretty frusterating. To make matters worse i was trouble shooting and found that i can upload any other touch osc template i create , onlu the livecontrol keeps flaking out. So the i got the bright idea to edit the livecontrol patch and i figured perhaps its not transmitting due to the size of the file or something, so i deleted the last two pages and blammo…. She uploaded to thr ipad…. Onlu issue is i dont have any control ove rthe. Drums or keys page…. Odd eh?

  • http://twitter.com/DJisGodUK DJISGOD

    i have the same problem,but i tried deleteing the last 2 pages with no luck and still cannot upload it.templates i creat myself are uploaded with no problem at all yet live control will not:(

  • Mark

    I was actually going to post with a similar problem. I haven't had any problems loading the template into TouchOSC, but I do have constant connection problems. Every five or ten minutes the template will stop responding in TouchOSC, receiving nothing from Live for a minute or so. It's a bit frustrating but for basic studio work I can work around it just by quickly deselecting/reselecting LiveControl as a control surface in Live. I'd really love to start using LiveControl on stage though and it makes this not really feasible. It would be awesome to work on what the issue is here.

  • Felix

    First it works… But today i want to start and ableton says all the time… “check your networt settings”

  • ManOS

    Hello, i am having some issues with livecontrol
    Everything is installed python, bonjour services, ableton 8.1, touch osc in iphone
    i start Livecontrol, settingup with bonjour and with manual ip, ports send 5001 and recieve5000 also the files for ableton they are in the correct directory

    next i start ableton i choose LiveControl only from devices
    ableton in the down yellow area says that its ok to recieve from livecontrol messages

    in iphone- touchosc i set everything and start the livecontrol GUI.

    Nothin happens on ableton and nothing happens on livecontrol in iphone
    no indicators flashing no midi messages send or recieve from both,

    Any ideas?????????
    thnks

    Windows 7
    ableton live 8.1
    iphone 3 with iOS4

  • reese

    you have to run the LiveControl.exe as an administrator

  • AT

    Hi,
    Whenever I try to add LiveControl TO as a Control Surface (On Ableton's preferences > Midi), Live crashes.
    I would love to be able to use it.

    I'm using Ableton Live 8.1.4 on Windows XP, midi yoke is installed, and I was able to connect LiveControl panel to the iPhone app easily. I've also configured the router to be on.

    Has this happened to several other people yet?

    Thanks in advance!

  • Guest

    same here…64bits issue?!
    damn microsoft

  • Guest

    ok just need to RTFM !!! sorry :)
    install bonjour:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/dl999
    thx

  • Maartenhofman

    HI,

    Maybe i’m wrong but where in the download zip file can i find the “livecontrol_to.txt” file?

  • Reflex58

    Is it possible to run 2 IpadsIphone with Live control

  • Tranceraven

    Help, I don’t have the Live Control TO listed in my control surfaces list. How come? I tied to copy the “LIVE” little thing to very single Live 8.1.4. folder in my computer, stil its never listed.How come? Hw can I know for sure wich folder does it have to be?

  • KAR

    Same here…no Live Control TO in my control surfaces.

  • g-man

    is there a way to record takes of triggering clips? I’ve done this with midi cc’s and a midi track but is it possible with a control surface? Then arrangements could be recorded on the fly…

    tx

  • Guest

    nice app:) thx
    do you think it’s possible to add some accelerometer(+gyroscope: 6axis) support!!!
    at this time it’s possible to route osc (any port other than 5000) thru a M4L device catch the /accxyz and send back the osc to live control app on port 4000
    but it’ll be awesome to have a dedicated page, like the XY one directly in touchosc
    take care

  • http://twitter.com/DoctorSco DoctorSco

    installed it, works fine with touchosc control surfaces.. but… if i start live without the live control running and linked to an iphone, live hangs. the hang is repeatable, live only works when livecontrol is running an linked to an iphone/ipad. in my settings controller 1 is an apc40 (which is not connected), and controller 2 is LiveContrtol_TO. if i make controller 2 “none”, then live does not hang..

    might be something to do with not handling the situation where livecontrol is not linked – you should be passing control onto the next controller in the list..

  • Funktion254

    Can anyone help out with why LiveControl isnt showing up in my midi control surfaces list!? It is absolutely driving me crazy. Everything works and seems to be ready to go.. any help??

  • ytsek

    On the iPad I’m the Launcher tab. I can’t go to the other tabs Mixer, Device, etc…
    Is there something wrong in my config?

  • Obri3n

    Same here, please help: obri3n@gmail.com

  • chriswinn

    I’m having the same issue. Oddly I never had this problem before and I have been using LiveControl for a few versions now. Still for some reason deleting those pages sorted it.

  • Toni

    In my Live libery the LiveContol is not unter “L” is at the End of the List after “Z”, maybe it’s the same by you?
    Sorry for my english, I’m from Germany
    Bye
    Toni

  • Giovanni Ghisleni

    i can’t see the new page of track control in ipad layout… i’m wrong with something?
    and in clip page i can”t see colors but only a text with the color …. excuse me for bad english…

  • Wim_xsyst

    ive got a problem. I have the red square,live sync with ipad but i can not send midi data out.
    I can not trigger anything. Whats the difference between livecontrol 1 & 2.
    Who can help me ?

  • Polimorfos

    same here!!

  • Bollum

    thanks for this great work !
    i use it on win64 and a ipad… its fantastic ;)
    but i have one problem.
    on every start from livecontrol.exe,i must deselect the midiports it used by other input gear like a masterkeybord and apc 40….
    otherwise the livecontrol block the midiports and its not possible to use they in live.
    it is very bad, thats not possible to save the settings of the selection of the midiports in livecontrol.

  • Planewalker

    Awesome program! I will definitely donate once a few bugs are worked out.

    The main bug is with the keyboard. The keyboard does not work properly. The top octave works fine, but in the bottom (higher) octave only the four leftmost keys work right. After that, the E key actually triggers an F note, the F key triggers an F# note, and so on, with every key actually triggering note higher than it should. The B key does not trigger any notes. Fix this and the app will be perfect!

  • animalsal

    Running TouchOSC 1.6.1, Ableton 8.1.3, on an iPhone 4.0.2 and TouchOSC crashes EVERYTIME I load the Livecontrol layout… have everything setup exactly as given.. Any ideas what it could be? I restarted everything numerous times but still crashes within 3 seconds of opening

  • SomethingBlue

    I had to extract the installer folder, rename it to LiveControl_TO and then put it in the MIDI Remote Scripts folder of my current Ableton program folder. In Windows, its under ‘Resources’

    The good news is that it now pops up in Live. The bad news is that the only midi I am getting is drums/keys with no red ring or handshake.

  • Simo

    hello, i have a question.. can I use and if yes how I can use live control with different devices like 3 or 4 ipad?
    many thanx and have a good day!

  • Prodijital

    Hello and thanks for this amazing work!
    I have a little question here: since I use Reason in Rewire in my Live 8 (on Mac), Livecontrol crashes. Is it normal or I have missed something?
    Thanks!

  • Laff303

    I have got 2 iPads running but… It works as a master & slave. The slave has no feed back. Please help.

  • Vic

    Also want to use multiple devices
    Will require more than one LiveControl TO control surface in Ableton preferences.
    Perhaps the installer could allow devices selection. So the midi remote scripts are fixed to the correct device ip. This will correct any port binding issues. It would be good to append the device name to the midi script folder name for identification
    In this model your would run the max exe for each attached device.

    I am aware that you probably do not need any advice.

    Your software is awesome. it is why I got my iPad. I could not be happier.

    Keep up the great work!

  • Seanhalas

    Great app. One problem, I can’t get pads or keys to react to the instrument I have selected. Ableton shows midi signal coming in but no avail.
    S

  • http://twitter.com/kattkieru kattkieru

    I seem to be the only one having this issue… Everything works perfectly (Live 8.2), but for some odd reason the Piano roll and drum pads don’t play the instrument I have selected– they play a piano. I don’t have any pianos in my Live set, so that’s kind of odd.

    Is there some “play piano” setting that I’ve missed in the setup? Everything else works great.

    Thanks for all your hard work.

  • Anonymous

    Oh hang on, you need to select the appropriate midi channel in the LiveControl.app, sounds like you’ve got Wavetable GM Synth or whatever its called selected. On windows you’ll need midi yoke installed.

  • Paul

    Hi, this is fantastic software, but I’m having one problem: I don’t get any ‘text feedback’ back to my iphone, ie. the clip names and the functions of each button are blank. So the controls all work but I’m kind of guessing at what each one is going to do.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks

    Paul

  • Doruktoronto

    totally poor tech support from touch osc and livecontrol . .too many patches and softwares has to be installed to get it running. sucks big time becouse installation tutorial is horrible. . i got touch osc for my ipad. i installed midiyoke and pure data. got livecontrol as well. even i picked livecontrol TO as a surface. but still i cant get through. Ableton Error is cannot bind with Livecontrol TO and check network settings. i got a novation launchpad running onda side but i cant config the ipad. whats wrong with connection and what should i do to fix this network error? and why do i have do it with wi-fi ? can i use livecontrol and touch osc via usb.? please help..

  • Anonymous

    Ports set correctly in TouchOSC? should be 5000/5001

  • Anonymous

    Why are you running pure data?

    Delete LiveControl_TO from Lives MIDI Remote Scripts directly and reinstall using the very latest zip file + jar installer.

  • Doruktoronto

    removed pure data stuff and reinstalled livecontrol TO to remote scripts. i can see livecontrolto @ surfaces but still i am having cannot bind port error from live. i am under windows 7. i seen some peeps having trouble with livecontrol@win7. can be becouse of win7?

  • Paul

    Thanks for the reply; yup they’re set correctly but no joy. I’m going to reinstall python just now in case that might make a difference…
    Paul

  • Paul

    I’ve tried reinstalling Python and my TouchOSC ports are correct, but still no luck with the text display. Can you suggest any other solutions?

    Thanks!

  • Paul

    Sorry, should’ve mentioned earlier: I’m running a Black MacBook with Snow Leopard 10.6.3, and an iphone 3G with OS 4.0.2….